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ID cards

Posted by Susan Press
Monday, June 13, 2005

Very dismayed to see misleading press release on ID Cards - just to set the record straight Labour councillors, including myself, also opposed ID cards at last week's council meeting. Central govt may think they are a great wheeze but thousands of Labour Party members believe them to be an infringement on civil liberties and also absolutely useless in countering terrorism. That's why I supported Lib Dem motion. And that's why many Lab MPs will also be opposing them.

Posted by Andrew Hall
Monday, June 13, 2005

I'm delighted that Sue Press has confirmed that many rank and file Labour supporters oppose the introduction of ID cards. One of the reasons I didn't vote Labour in the last election was that I really couldn't give my vote to a party that is prepared to introduce such a draconian policy.

The usual argument of those who support (or 'don't mind') ID cards is that, if you've nothing to hide, you've nothing to fear. This misses the point entirely. We're slowly but steadily heading towards a society where everything we do, everywhere we go, every intimate detail of our life, will be known, and maybe even controlled, by the authorities. The introduction of ID cards is a giant leap towards such control.

Posted by Duncan Watson
Monday, June 20, 2005

It is indeed encouraging that so many local Labour councillors are opposing the ID card bill. It is a shame they do not get to vote on the matter. Having written to Chris McCafferty a number of weeks ago and not having received a response one must assume that she is for the ID card bill. Sadly she is the one whose vote will represent everyone in this constituency.

Posted by Charlie S
Tuesday, June 28, 2005

Our World Our Say are running a campaign to declare Britain an ID card free zone. They are also urging their supporters (around 60,000) to oppose them.

I have downloaded and displayed a "This home is an id card free zone" poster.

Posted by John Beacroft-Mitchell
Wednesday, June 29, 2005

McCafferty backs ID Cards

I see that despite local opposition from both inside and outside the local Labour Party, Chris McCafferty voted in favour of ID Cards and the ID database in all three of last night's (28th June) parlimentary votes.

MPs' voting

Posted by Colm
Saturday, October 1, 2005

NO2ID is a campaigning organisation opposed to the government s planned ID card and National Identity Register. Th nearest group to us is in Bradford. I would like to set up one here. Anyone interested?

Thse cards will not stop terrorists , they will not stop benefit fraud, they will not stop illegal immigration, they will not stop identity theft (if anything, they'll increase it).

All the above are just excuses from a fledgling totalitarian government which wishes to have complete control over its citizens (look at Walter Wolfgang s treatment at the party conference!).

The record of government computer projects does not bode well, and the biometrics technology is still very new and full of flaws.

Big Brother is on his way, but if enough people protest and sign the pledge to refuse to have an ID card, they'll have to reconsider.

See www.no2id.net

Posted by Ray White
Monday, October 3, 2005

It's good to see that most people making comments here are as sane as me and have more common sense than the powers that be. They understand that the ID scheme is a huge waste of money, precious taxpayers' money that could be much better spent on health, education, transport or (heaven forbid) the environment. As Colm rightly points out, successive governments have a bad record regarding computer-based projects and this one will undoubtedly be as bad as the rest.

And will it combat the terrorism that is caused by so very few people? No, not a chance. Those determined to do so will beat all the technology thrown at them within a couple of years. And even if they can't, they'll bypass it entirely by recruiting naive individuals who have a valid ID card anyway. QED.


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